Episode 105 WSG Tim Seeley

 

This week Justin and Tom get to talk with the incredible Tim Seeley. The guys go over Tim’s life and work including his creative childhood and massive run on Grayson. They also talk about leaving Grayson and taking over the duties on Green Lantern. Enjoy episode 105 of Shanlian on Batman!

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Lords of Film Episode 18: The Last Jedi Review

 

 

Justin and Kyle are joined by guest Zaki Hasan to discuss the ups and downs that we were left with after seeing Star Wars The Last Jedi. How does it compare to the classic original trilogy? Is the future of Star Wars looking bright? Tune in to get the answers.

 

Star Wars and the Falsehood of Correct Opinions

by Drew Kiess

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Nothing like a Star Wars movie to bring us together, right?

Being a DC Comics fan, I’m in an interesting position to comment on divisive movies. Star Wars: The Last Jedi is certainly just that, but in a fascinating way that I am struggling to find a parallel to. Perhaps J.J. Abram’s Star Trek, ironically, has had a similar reaction to where it is a critical hit and seemingly well liked among casual moviegoers and fans, but incredibly divisive among the more faithful fanbase.

I will get this out of the way now: I did not particularly like The Last Jedi. I found the plot to be clunky and full of holes that would make Mr. Sir proud. It was an incredibly uneven experience with the things that I loved about it clashing with the things that I didn’t. This, however, does not mean that the film was without merit or should, as some zealous fans have suggested, be stricken from the official canon. That is just nonsense.

All students surpass their masters. This is the way things work. This is the theme of Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi and is easily the greatest thing this movie can add to the franchise. We can always move beyond the things that have come in the past and embrace the future, even if that future makes us uneasy.

And I embrace that lesson. I will be the first to admit, while I was fighting the good fight for Man of Steel against the “Not My Superman” crowd, I was planted directly in the middle of the “Not my Star Wars” crowd as a proud member. The year 2005 changed the way I viewed Star Wars with the conclusion of Revenge of the Sith. The Star War was over. It was a thing of the past. The next month, I would read for the first time Batman Year One and watch Batman Begins and my conversion to being a comic book nerd from being a Star Wars nerd was completed. “When I was a child, I thought as a child…”

And so Star Wars was cemented as an element of my childhood. I was fourteen when Revenge of the Sith hit cinemas and Star Wars has always been a relic for me of that time period. I have flippantly referred to Star Wars as the nerd starter pack. I still (kind of) stand by that.

The prospect of bringing them back and even deconstructing these heroes was not and is not an idea that I am entirely game for. I have a deeper understanding of those who dislike Man of Steel for that reason. However, that was my problem with The Force Awakens. I do suspect that is also the problem for some with this film, but it reveals another dark side to fandom:

If someone disagrees with our opinion, we have to explain it away.

The reason I didn’t like The Last Jedi is simple: the negative subjectively outweighed the positive. The reason others liked it is because they had the reverse experience. The common theory that has been thrown around is that those who dislike it are throwing some kind of tantrum because of their fan theories is actually a disservice to the movie you love.

I fully believe that The Last Jedi is a bold movie that makes bold decisions. If those worked for you, great. I would hope that if you are a fan of a controversial movie that you would choose to engage in the conversation rather than categorize dissention and write them off. Engaging with it is the best way to embrace it.

On the flip side, if you hated it, do not conflate those who love it with blind brand loyalists. Any movie worthy of a strong negative reaction must have qualities that are bold enough to warrant appreciation from someone else.

I believe that conversations about movies can and should include discussing different opinions and not become a shouting match. We all have a different road that leads us to these movies and so we all have a different experience with them. Hear from them, and let it inform and even strengthen your own opinion. You might actually learn something along the way. Learn the lessons from the film arguments in the past and make the ones coming up better. Movies shouldn’t be something that rips us apart, but something that brings us together—even if we disagree.

 

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Nightwing Director Shares Brief Update

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After retweeting our official Twitter Page “Nightwing” director Chris McKay gave us a brief update on when to expect some news on the upcoming DC Film. Mr. McKay commented on a question from a fan about the status of the upcoming film, and when we might hear some news about it.

Mr. McKay replied “I would expect to be able to tell you more concrete info on our movies progress around February.”unnamed-9

“Nightwing” is in heavy pre-production, so make sure you stay tuned in during the month February for more information about the upcoming film. “Nightwing”  will be directed by Chris McKay with the script penned by Bill Dubuque and is being produced by Geoff Johns and Deborah Snyder.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Episode 104 ft. Mark Hughes

Justin and Kyle sit down with Forbes writer Mark Hughes and have an at length conversation about the aftermath of Justice League, the possible future of the DC Extended Universe and what the next steps for that shared universe could be.

Being a Batman podcast we ask Mark to gives his picks to take up the Mantle of “The Bat” if Ben Affleck does leave the role of Batman after Justice League!

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